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Building an Olympic-Level Performance Mindset with Stephanie Roble

Watch/Listen here or on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your podcasts“I believe as the leadership team goes, so goes the rest of the company. So if you don't have that consistent and significant sustainable growth, you've got some work to do.” — Mike Goldman

Stephanie Roble is a two-time Olympian, world-class sailor, and former Rolex Yachtswoman of the Year. She began sailing at age five in Wisconsin, later captaining the team at Old Dominion University and earning multiple national and North American titles. Competing in the Tokyo 2020 and Paris 2024 Olympics, she won two Pan-American Games medals, a World Championship medal, and multiple World Cup medals, reaching a world ranking of third. Mike Goldman met Stephanie through a client who sponsored her journey and was inspired by her insights on performance mindset.

Early Beginnings in Sailing

  • Grew up on a small lake in Wisconsin, where sailing was a common activity.

  • Initially intimidated by the sport but later fell in love with it due to her love for the water, sun, and competition.

  • Winning her first race fueled her passion for competitive sailing.

Olympic Journey and Team Dynamics

  • Competed in two Olympic campaigns with the same teammate.

  • Success required high-level communication due to the complexity of sailing.

  • Communication had to be concise and strategic, both on and off the water.

  • Managed logistics, fundraising, and strategic planning as part of a small self-run business.

  • Worked with a coach and sports psychologist to leverage team strengths and differences.

Challenges and Mindset in Competition

  • Struggled with decision-making paralysis due to pressure and fear of making mistakes.

  • Shifted mindset by working with a sports psychologist, focusing on adaptability and process over results.

  • Improved decision-making by trusting intuition and learning from past performance data.

  • Learned the importance of deciding and constantly reevaluating rather than overanalyzing.

Burnout and Rediscovering Passion

  • Leading up to the Paris 2024 Olympics, struggled with maintaining energy and momentum.

  • Faced burnout after near-podium finishes in four major 2023 events.

  • Reconnected with her love for sailing by focusing on the joy of being on the water.

  • Reassessed her ‘why,’ transitioning from solely aiming for a podium finish to valuing personal growth and improvement.

Transition to Coaching and Future Plans

  • Transitioning from Olympic sailing to coaching high performers.

  • Interested in working with athletes and business professionals on mindset and high-performance strategies.

  • Passionate about helping individuals unlock their full potential by focusing on areas like decision-making, self-talk, mindfulness, and accountability.

  • Uses personal experience to help others find marginal gains in performance.

Key Takeaways for Business Leaders

  • Communication is critical in both sports and business leadership.

  • Trusting one’s intuition is essential for making quick, effective decisions.

  • Burnout can be overcome by reconnecting with one’s passion and purpose.

  • Focusing on continuous improvement rather than just the end goal fosters resilience.

  • Accountability is crucial in building and sustaining high-performance teams.

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    Stephanie Roble: Accept, Breathe, Scan. And so that would just, that was just a loop in my head. And, anytime a poor decision was made, okay, I accept that I made that decision, breathe through it, and then scan the race course for opportunities.

    And that was, that really helped me refocus myself and,You know,there's so many tools and it's so exciting to think about how we can apply them in business or in sport.

    Mike Goldman: You made it to the better leadership team show, the place where you learn how to surround yourself with the right people, doing the right things. So you can grow your business without losing your mind. I'm your host and leadership team coach, Mike Goldman. I'm going to show you how to improve top and bottom line growth, fulfillment, and the value your company adds to the world by building a better leadership team.

    All right, [00:01:00] let's go. My guest today began sailing at the age of five in Wisconsin and was drawn to the thrill of competition and ambitious goals at that early age. She had a successful junior sailing career and went on to sail and study at Old Dominion University. She earned a degree in finance.

    Captain the sailing team and became a two time All American. After college, she raced on small keelboats earning World, National and North American titles, and was named Rolex Yachtswoman of the Year. In 2014, she competed in the Tokyo 2020. And Paris 2024 Olympics in the women's skiff class. In the process, she won two Pan-American game medals, a World Championship medal and World Cup [00:02:00] medals, as well as achieving a world ranking of third.

    Pretty amazing. I met her at a client of mine that helped sponsor,her journey. And she sat in, the meetings and then did a great discussion on, performance mindset at lunchtime and was really excited to get her on the show. Her name is Stephanie Roble.

    Stephanie, thanks for being on the show. Welcome.

    Stephanie Roble: Thank you, Mike. Thanks for having me. it's an honor to be here.

    Mike Goldman: Yeah, and it amazes me.

    You began sailing at age five, I think. I think I was still figuring out like how not to suck my thumb at age five. Like how do you,how do you get started and. Let me start here. Before I ask the question I ask at the beginning of every episode about a leadership team.

    I want to hit this first. How do you actually get started sailing at age five? Was it something your family was into and you just went along, or how did that work?

    Stephanie Roble: Yeah, so I grew up on a small lake in Wisconsin, and in the summer that's what everyone on the lake would do is go [00:03:00] sailing. And so sailing lessons started at age five, and I think my parents were pretty keen to get me out of the house, so they signed me up for lessons. And early on I was actually really intimidated by the sport and I really didn't like it, but it eventually, I fell in love with it because it was a way to. Be on the water, which I just absolutely loved. Playing in the water, being in the sun, being with my friends. And so in love with that. And then I started competing and won my first race and really got the itch to, to bring that, you know, throughout my life,

    Mike Goldman: That, that's incredible. and I'm, I definitely wanna dive in. Deeper to that journey, but really excited about this because you are, you're the first Olympian we've ever had on the show. And that's a big, that is a big deal. I'm honored. That's a really big deal. And also I love the,what gets me, got me really interested in talking to you, and I've only done this I think once before on the show, is I love the intersection of.

    Sports [00:04:00] leadership and business leadership and how that works together. I think those are so related. so really excited to, to talk to you about all this stuff and dive into your journey.

    But normally the first question, I guess this will be the second question I'm asking is,from all of your experience, what do you believe is the one most important characteristic of a great team?

    Stephanie Roble: I would say it's communication. When I think back on, on both of my Olympic campaigns, I was with the same teammate for both of them. we sail on a small boat. It's only 16 feet long. It's the two of us on board, and there's, as you can imagine, in sailing, there's a lot going on. We're battling the wind, we're battling the waves, we're battling other competitors.

    We're figuring out, know how to read the wind the best. We're making game plans, we're working together to maximize the boat's efficiency through the water. and, you know, we're making moves on the other boats and there's just a lot going on. And so, [00:05:00] you know, for us to be successful in the water took a really high level of communication. you know, very specific words, very Concise, you know, statements. And so we really worked hard on, on honing that in throughout our career. But then off the water, we were, it was basically us and our coach and a little bit of leadership from the federation. But the way things are structured within the, sailing community in the United States, were essentially running our own small business.

    We did all of our fundraising. We did all of our logistics. We did a lot of our. strategic planning. You know, we were constantly trying to figure out how to make the most of our time on and off the water, and so it took a lot of communication and we're in a high pressure environment with, you know, a lot at stake and this ultimate goal of winning an Olympic medal.

    And you work four years, eight years for that one dream. And so there's a lot of pressure, there's a lot going on behind the scenes, and it all came down to communication.

    Mike Goldman: [00:06:00] How much of that communication is technique? Like when we wanna say this thing that could be, that could take a minute to say, we're gonna say it in. Five seconds, like, you know, how much of it is technique and code and things like that versus kind of the softer part of it of really getting to know each other and trusting one another.

    Stephanie Roble: That's a really good question.from a performance standpoint. purely on the water. It was all about creating those clear, concise statements. And we would, as technology evolved during our Olympic campaigns, we actually ended up using like GoPros and voice recorders during racing and during our training so that we could hear how we're talking to each other. And as we all know, there's so much about, you know, it's not sometimes not what you say, it's how you say it. And so, you know, you know, a big thing for us was. Someone, if Maggie, my teammate, said something to me and I would always say copy, but if I was like annoyed or [00:07:00] you know, at a situation and I was like, copy, that comes off a lot different.

    Right. So, you know, it comes down to the details of communication. But then like you said, it's also about understanding each other. Like we were very different people at the end of the day and we put a lot of effort into understanding each other and understanding what Maggie needs in order to perform and. What I need in order to perform.

    Mike Goldman: And that's so important. and obvi, you know, that's a great example of where sports and business are so similar is that you do have those differences that, that not only impact how you communicate, but I imagine those differences were. Pretty important in, in the strength of the team, if you were both exact.

    I mean, did that come into play? Were there strengths in each other? You could, you can kind of leverage through those differences. I.

    Stephanie Roble: A hundred percent. And that's where we put a lot of effort in, especially with our, with our coach and sports psychologist, was understanding those differences and how do we really, how do we leverage [00:08:00] them?

    Mike Goldman: You know, for example, Maggie's a very direct communicator and I would often, kind of struggle with that. But then I, once I opened myself up to being more open to direct communication and, you know, taking that on myself, I was able to, you know, kind of open up a whole new level for us.

    Beautiful. So I wanna step back to your journey and then get into the performance mindset and dive a little deeper on the things we're starting to talk about. but you start sailing at the age of five. love that competition. when is that their kind of the glimmer of the dream or maybe stronger than a glimmer, when do you start dreaming that, hey, maybe I want to get to the Olympics one day.

    Stephanie Roble: It came at a very early age. Like basically once I saw sailing in the Olympics, I was like, I want to do that. and you know, I grew up in a household where watching the Olympics was something we did for the winter and summer games. I remember watching the opening ceremonies, and I remember just feeling the [00:09:00] magic around the Olympics at a really young age. And then once I started competing and doing well, at a junior sailing level, it was just something I always wanted to do. And I didn't take the traditional pathway to the Olympics usually. in, in the US at least, you know, you have your successful junior sailing career. You go to college, you do college sailing, and then right outta college you focus on your Olympics. I didn't feel like I had the resources to put together a successful Olympic team at that point. Obviously sailing is a very expensive and resource heavy sport, and if I'm gonna do something, I'm gonna do it the right way. So I actually went into, into the small keelboat racing, which you talked about in my introduction.

    And then in the fall of 2016, Maggie, who is, was a teammate of mine in, in high school sailing, and we competed against each other in college sailing. She called me and said. You know, Hey, I really want to sail with you. Like, let's, I have a boat. Let's go do this. And it, I, it was at a perfect time in my [00:10:00] life where I was ready to transition into something else and I said to myself, it's now or never.

    And I, I stopped the sailing that I was doing in that industry and said, all right, let's go all in on this.

    Mike Goldman: As you, you know, leading up to Tokyo 2020, the first Olympics you were in. te tell me a little bit about that journey and some of the. Some of the struggles and some of the things you learned in, in, in getting there. what was that like?

    Stephanie Roble: Yeah, I would say the first. Olympic journey was so much about learning the fundamentals. I was brand new to the boat. I didn't have any experience in it. And so I was really focused on learning the fundamentals and then, translating that into racing. And I remember reaching a specific point where we were getting quite good and being recognized on the international scene, but I started putting so much pressure on myself. To the point [00:11:00] where I would freeze on the race course, I would come up on a decision point, and as the skipper of the team, I was the one in charge of making the decisions. And so I would come up to a decision point on the race course and I would freeze because I was so afraid of making the wrong decision and like how that would impact our results.

    I became very results focused and so I was, you know, my coach pulled me aside and said, Hey, you know, we really. You have so much potential as an athlete and as a team, andwe need to address this. And so I linked up with a sports psychologist and in a ton of work into mindset and,really focusing on the process of everything and, digging into the why I was feeling that pressure and, and fear.

    And we did a lot of really great work together in 2019. sailed a world championship where we were like high teens in the results. I mean something 16, 17, something like that. And next World championship [00:12:00] in 2020. We were, we won a bronze medal and I, that is all because of the mental work that I put in.

    Mike Goldman: So I wanna dig into this freezing on decisions a little bit. 'cause as you said that again, I'm like, oh my God, that happens to business leaders all the time. and I find that a number of leaders I work with really struggle with believing they've got to get every decision right. That there's one magic right answer.

    They've gotta get it right and that can cause them to overanalyze and totally miss an opportunity. So dig a little deeper on, on the mindset around making quick decisions. What was it specifically that you struggled with there and what allowed you to switch and become better and quicker at making decisions?

    Stephanie Roble: Yeah, it's such a good point there. It's, you know, we, when we come, when we come on decision points, it's easy to have that paralysis by analysis and that's exactly what was happening to me. I think [00:13:00] I was overthinking all of the options and not trusting my gut. I think your gut can, and your intuition can tell you so much. And, you're right. It's, you know, we're so. Tempted to want to make every decision the right way, when in reality that's impossible. And so I think sailing is a really good platform for teaching us adaptability. You know, things are happening so quickly and there's so many things that are out of our control that we just have to figure out how to react to and make the most out of.

    Like the wind, for example, you know, it comes off the land and it bends at different angles and you don't always know how it's going to hit your boat or how it's going to. Impact the boats around you. And so you constantly have to be reevaluating, where am I, what are the other boats? Doing what do I want?

    And then evaluating your risk versus reward, behind that. So I think, you know, I just leaned into that idea of becoming more adaptable. I really, I studied a lot of, our GPS trackers from the racing, so that helped build my [00:14:00] confidence for better decision making on the race course. and then, you know, saying to myself, I trust myself and I'm going to learn from this.

    And, I think that was a really big mindset shift.

    Mike Goldman: Yeah,what I'm taking from all that, that I think is so powerful. For leaders and for me as well is what I'm hearing is it's a combination of overtime learning to trust yourself. But then from a process standpoint, what I just kind of wrote down is decide and reevaluate. Decide and reevaluate, decide, and re instead of I make a decision, I execute God, I hope I got the decision right.

    It's like, no, just keep deciding and reevaluating and be, and sailing is probably not, probably, sailing is such a good metaphor for that because if you decide and reevaluate, you can deal with anything. But if you take too long and you don't decide, you may be shit outta luck at that point.

    Stephanie Roble: And you know, as I [00:15:00] got older in my Olympic career, I realized that, you know, it's better to make a decision and back yourself on it. Then, like you said, you know, adapt or reevaluate from there, rather than be indecisive and kind of be stuck in the middle with it.

    Mike Goldman: How was kind of skipping forward to Tokyo in 20 in I'm sorry, Paris in 2024. How was that, how was that journey much different than the journey to get to Tokyo in, in 2020? And if so, what was different about it for you?

    Stephanie Roble: Yeah, I would say for Paris I felt more like a veteran on the race course, I definitely felt a lot more confident. and I didn't, yeah, I didn't struggle with like that paralysis by analysis necessarily. I, I felt like I had the reps under my belt and felt a lot more confident. and I'd say what I struggled with more in, [00:16:00] in the Paris Quad was keeping the energy and momentum, you know, it's so intense and you're working so hard for this one goalyou know, like I said earlier, there's so many thing.

    There were so many things that we were managing outside of just being athletes. And so, I was really managing burnout in, in the approach to Paris. And, you know, it was really hard. It's really hard to admit that as an athlete or any high performer, you don't ever want to, relinquish and admit that.

    So that, that was something I struggled with, which was. It was very hard. Yeah.

    Mike Goldman: What is that? I wanna dig into that burnout a little bit more. What? What did that actually look like and feel like for you, your version of burnout? I imagine that's probably very different in different people, but what did that look like and feel like for you?

    Stephanie Roble: It stemmed from a couple of things. In 2023, we had [00:17:00] four major events that we were. In podium contention for at, on the last day of all those events, one of them being the Olympic test event, which is basically a dress rehearsal for the Olympics and one of them being the world championship. And we ended up not closing out on any of those four regattas. I walked away at the end of the summer in 2023, just kind of, you know, completely, Defeated. And, you know, I felt like I was putting everything I had into the, into performance and I felt like I was, you know, on the right track at we, we were doing all the right things, but we just couldn't seal the deal.

    And can only stay optimistic and positive for so many of those things, you know? And so at the end of 2023 season. I just started really feeling that burnout of, okay,I'm hand, I'm taking on so much. I'm doing so much. I feel like I'm on the right path for results. And we were being supported in that with the [00:18:00] U-S-O-P-C, with the US sailing team, with our coaches, and we all, you know, felt like we were on this right path and just, we just weren't closing out.

    And so that was just a really hard one to swallow.

    Mike Goldman: Yeah, and again, interestingly enough, just like when you were talking about your struggle. In 2020 around decision making and that relates very much to business leaders.the idea of burnout, absolutely relates and feeling, and man, I could remember, you know, thankfully, you know, my coaching business has been.

    Going really well, I'd say for the last 12 years or so. But I went through about seven years of my business life with real struggles and feeling like I'm doing everything and I'm not winning. Like why is everybody else around me winning and I'm working my butt off and I'm not winning? it hurts and it's, yes, it's frustrating, but more than anything, like you said, you feel defeated and it's very hard to [00:19:00] move forward.

    So I know, like me, other business leaders have felt the same way. There may be some folks listening that are feeling that way right now. So what. Helped you. when you talk about going from that burnout to kind of keeping that energy and that momentum that you need to perform at such a high level, what were some of the things that allowed you to make that shift from that feeling of defeat to having the energy and momentum?

    Stephanie Roble: that's a really good question. I really focused on connecting to my why. Why was I doing this? Why was I showing up every day? Why was I sacrificing, you know, on, on. Situations at home or with my family or personal life for this one goal. And then the other thing was reconnecting to the joy that sailing brought me.

    You know, I was, I would think back to five year old Steph who was on the water back at home, just purely loving. on [00:20:00] the water and, you know, the sensations that our boat provides of like, the boat would take off and fly underneath you and my hair whipping in the wind and, you know, all of the elements like that, you know, really connecting to that joy. and then the why, and I think I said this at the business launch that we had together, the, my why initially was because I really envision myself standing on the podium. And then I realized that, sailing is a sport where there's so much outta your control. It's very hard to consistently be on the podium.

    It's, and it's, it's just hard to execute all the time. Right. But what I really connected to was the challenge of becoming better every day. And that's what I refocused on, in the fall of 2023.

    Mike Goldman: Yeah, I think what's interesting and so important about what you're saying is, you know, there, have been, you know, dozens and dozens of books written on how to figure out your [00:21:00] why, and obviously Simon Sinek, you know, is the king of, you know, of all that and critically important.

    I have my why I coach my leaders on that. but you, I think you added something that's really important because if we focusing on the why is important, but if we continue to focus on our why, but we're not getting there, we're not achieving what we want to achieve. I think you could still feel defeated, but what you added to that was focusing on, you know, like loving the water and focusing on just the process and doing the things.

    I could remember, I've told this story before on stage and maybe in another podcast when I was really struggling in my business,and I had hooked up in my mind and it's a very shallow way to think, but. Hey, we are all, we're all shallow. From time to time, I hooked up in my mind that success meant having a nice car.

    Like I was driving an old crappy used car. I'd see all these people in their [00:22:00] BMWs and Mercedes and like, you know, why could they afford those cars? And I can't. And I finally got to the point that my business was a level that I went out and picked up my first BMW and I was super, as I was growing my business.

    I was in heaven that I was finally growing it and things were working, and then I went and picked up the car and I felt this wave of depression come over me at a level I'd never felt before. And I said, I don't understand. Like I just achieve something I've been working to achieve for a number of years.

    Why am I feeling that way? and what I realized with the help of my coach is it's a car. A car doesn't change your life and frankly, reaching a goal doesn't typically change your life all that much. What changes your life is the journey getting there. And it's about enjoying the journey because if you wait to this magic day, you achieve everything you wanna [00:23:00] achieve.

    Number one, we keep raising the bar.

    Stephanie Roble: Yeah.

    Mike Goldman: Soon as we get there, well, we gotta, you know, I won a world championship, now I have to be an Olympic champion. Now I have to be an, we keep raising the bar, so we end up never being happy. But if you, like you said, just come to grips with, Hey, I love the water and I get to do this every day.

    And you've got those two things together, I think really help us with that energy and motivation.

    Stephanie Roble: Hundred percent definitely.

    Mike Goldman: So I know you, you are now. Transitioning. Who you are and your career from just sailing, and I say just sailing. It's not like you're stopping that, but from, you know, just sailing to now, you want to help other people, you know, with their mindset. Talk a little bit about, and I know this is a journey for you, that you are at the beginning of, and, you know, and you're starting to coach and you've got a client.

    You, and I know you're working on some certifications, doing a whole [00:24:00] lot of things. We talked about what you're phenomenal, but tell me a little bit more about the, kinds of folks that, that you work with and wanna work with and where your coaching focuses, where you think they need the most help.

    Stephanie Roble: Yeah, that's a really good question. I'm really enjoying this journey. I'm learning a lot and

    it's fun to relate what I learned as an athlete into these new principles but I would say.I respect anyone who has a goal and wants to become better at anything. And I love the process, like I said earlier of becoming better and that challenge of high performance.

    the Olympic campaign provided so many opportunities to. Just find that 1%. And that was so exciting to me. And you know, we would, we, our sailing skills got to a very high level, but then it would, if you're approaching from a holistic view, it's like, well, [00:25:00] how do we dial in our sleep more? How do we dial in our nutrition more?

    How do we dial in our communication more? How do we become more efficient at putting our boat together so we waste less hours in the sun? How do we strategize, you know, who's doing what when it comes to boat maintenance? Those kinds of things. And so I, I just really loved that puzzle of like, where do we find these little 1%? I, I am just excited to work with, you know, my heart is obviously with athletes, so I would love to work with. High performing athletes, but then there's, you know, the athletes who are looking to take their game from good to great. And then there's, high performers in business as well. and as you know, we're having this conversation, there's, we're definitely highlighting how many translatable skills there are between being an athlete and business.

    And really I'm excited to work with any high performers. but my heart is definitely with athletes.

    Mike Goldman: Yeah, when you think about the high performers [00:26:00] and. The kinds of focus that, you know, you talked about, you know, sleep, nutrition, mindset and a number of other things. When you think about the high performers and I think we talked about two of the areas, one around decision making. We've talked about the energy and motivation, but.

    When it comes to, you know, the stress of trying to be the best at something, the anxiety of trying to be the best at something, the level of confidence you need to build in addition to decision making and keeping that energy and momentum. what's, what would be another important area of kind of having that performance mindset?

    What would be another area that, That, that you found as something that was a struggle and beneficial for you to work on that you think others should be thinking about and working on?

    Stephanie Roble: Oh, there's so many things.you know, something that comes to mind is like awareness and mindfulness. I really honed in on, on my mindfulness because I felt like if I was in the present [00:27:00] moment in racing, you know, I was in that flow state. I wasn't overthinking things. I was just doing things and that was a really beautiful place to be in.

    And when the best results came. that comes from an awareness and, mindfulness. So I really would do a lot of meditation. I would do, I would, symbols on our boat that would catch my attention so I could refocus, my energy. So that was a big thing. also self-talk, you know, that's a really big one as well.

    We have a tendency to beat ourselves up so much. I, and that was something that I worked on a lot when I had that paralysis by analysis is.I would make a decision and then get, so if it was the wrong one, I would get so frustrated for my, with myself. And so I really worked on that self-talk of and creating mantras for myself.

    And, like one that I used before the Olympics was if I found my focus distracted, or if I found, myself reacting negatively to a situation or decision I made, I would say to myself, Accept, Breathe, Scan. And so that would just, that was just a loop [00:28:00] in my head. And, anytime a decision, a poor decision was made, okay, I accept that I made that decision, breathe through it, and then scan the race course for opportunities.

    And that was, that really helped me refocus myself and, mantras as well. I am brave was a, was one that I used a lot 'cause I would get really nervous before competition, but if I really channeled my inner brave self. didn't care about those nerves. I didn't fe feed into them. You know, so those, there's so many tools and it's so exciting to kind of think about how we can apply them in business or in sport.

    Mike Goldman: And what about in being part of a team with Maggie, you talked about the communication piece of it. what would, what was another area? Area that, that you found from a, not only being a high performance individual, but a high performance team. What was another critical area that you and Maggie had to focus on to, to make sure you were a strong team?[00:29:00]

    Stephanie Roble: Accountability. You know, we would talk about changes we'd want to make in communication, for example, and you'd, we'd have to hold and each other accountable to those changes. Holding ourselves accountable to showing up to the sports psychology work that we wanted to do, holding ourselves accountable to, the processes that worked for each of us individually and then together.

    And so think accountability was a really big factor for that.

    Mike Goldman: And what did that actually look like? Like what did you, was it just saying, you know, Hey, I need you here, or Hey, where were you? Or like, what did you actually do to. To hold each other accountable.

    Stephanie Roble: Well, first of all, we committed to that and understood that sometimes it was not going to be very pretty. You know, it's like, like I said, you're tired from training, you're tired from traveling, you're tired from managing all the other things that were going on in the background, but. So sometimes, you know, [00:30:00] accountability was not presented as, as pretty as it should be, but at the end of the day, we knew that we were in it together to achieve the same goal, and, knew that the, if the other person was calling the other one out on something, that it was because it was to get us better for that ultimate goal.

    Mike Goldman: Yeah. And again, all those relate so well to the business world where one of the things on a leadership team, you know, I often say is it's not the CEO's job to hold everybody else accountable. It's the leadership team's job to hold each themselves and each other accountable. And it sounds like it's the, yes, it was a smaller two person team, but it sounds like it was exactly the same thing.

    So, so you're in Tokyo in 2020, Paris 2024.

    2028. any thoughts about, you know, doing it again or is that out of the question?

    Stephanie Roble: It's so tempting because it's a home games and that would be really special to be at home. [00:31:00] but I certainly acknowledge and respect, the fire that needs to be burning to be successful. And I've done two Olympic games. If I were to do this again, going for a medal and it would have to be a massive commitment.

    And right now that fire isn't burning, which is really hard to admit. But, I think, you know, I also just really respect how good everyone is at the Olympic level. And you can't just hop in obviously and do it. So, I think. Right now, I'm just really enjoying this process of learning, coaching and connecting with people like you to just absorb as much as I can about,

    this new industry that I'm hopping into.

    Mike Goldman: yeah. and I know that, you know, that I think I know the value you could add to others, maybe initially around sports, but obviously a, as we're learning together even more so in the time we're spending, you know, how much of this relates to business is [00:32:00] critical as well. So if someone did wanna, want to find out more about, about you and get in touch with you, what's the best way of them finding you and finding out more?

    Stephanie Roble: Right now, connect on LinkedIn. I am in the process of building a website and branding, which is really exciting So, connecting on LinkedIn or even Instagram. and I just, I would appreciate and welcome any connections.

    Mike Goldman: Beautiful. Beautiful. Well, hey, I, as I, always say, if you want a great company, you need a great leadership team. Stephanie, thanks for getting us there today. This is great.

    Stephanie Roble: Thank you for having me. It was a real honor to be here today and share my journey with you.


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